Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 09:55:16 +0900 From: John Flanagan Minutes: Spectra (John) --Want spectrometer to be able to discriminate peaks in range of 10-35 keV Updates: --Layout (Julie) --Media converter (Gary) Brainstorming topic: Energy measurement using Compton-scattering off LER/HER be ams. --Need a detector that can measure energy of single photons in few-to-tens of Me V range. --Accuracy needed for absolute beam energy measurement --Precision needed for beam tuning and energy spread measurement --Liquid He-cooled Ge provides 1e-3 accuracy --Other possibilities? ----Gary points out that electron yields for 10 MeV gamma in semiconductors is o nly in 1e3-1e4 range, so better precision is unlikely from semiconductor-based a pproach. I am also appending mail from Uli on the subject, to get everyone up to speed on what he is thinking. (Another one will follow in the next mail.) Cheers, John -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Energy measurment Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:08:37 -0700 From: Wienands, Uli To: john.flanagan@kek.jp CC: Wienands, Uli Hi John, I have now written down my thoughts on the energy calibration using inverse Compton scattering. Please find attached a draft (pdf). The salient points are: We need to inject the photons at a relatively small angle against the beam direction (i.e. in the lab the photons come sort-of from behind). That angle causes a sensitivity in energy that I am getting rid of by, in essence, measuring this angle using the beams. Possibly the most controversial aspect of this proposal. The energy accuracy I estimate, 180 and 260 keV, should be realistic assuming my angle-measurement procedure works. But it'll be hard to do much better; basically, one hits the limit of the detectors. Nothing in the hardware is particularly exotic. Anyway, I am soliciting your comments esp. wrt. this being credible and also this being realizable in the SuperKEKB context (space, penetrations etc.). Note that I have not put any costs against this yet. I would guess, without such thought, that it'll end up being something like a couple M$. We have done similar things at SLAC so I intend to pick the brains of people who know about lasers and beam guides. For the vacuum components I would want to ask you for a KEK estimate. The physics case in this document is weak/non-extant. Once we think we have something we can build and want to propose, do you think Gary Varner would be willing to add some physics justification? Thanks, Uli